Sinatra_Z - Now who is Spinning here?

If there is something that I don't like about politicians,
is that a politician without a stand, a spine or the ones who can't make up their mind.

Now bear with me here.

According to The Malaysian Insider

PAS backs use of Allah by Christians

By Adib Zalkapli

KUALA LUMPUR, Jan 5 — Despite strong opposition from some Muslims groups, PAS last night decided to back the use of the word Allah by Catholics, saying that it is consistent with the federal Constitution and Islamic principles.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/48498-pas-backs-use-of-allah-by-christians


According to M-Star

Kufur Jika Sokong Guna Kalimah Allah - Haron Din

BANGI: Mana-mana umat Islam yang menyokong keputusan Mahkamah Tinggi membenarkan penggunaan kalimah 'Allah' dalam akhbar mingguan Herald-The Catholic Weekly dalam penerbitannya boleh membawa kepada kekufuran.

Timbalan Mursyidul Am PAS, Datuk Dr Haron Din berkata, menyokong kepada sesuatu perkara yang salah di sisi Islam juga secara tidak langsung boleh menyebabkan berlakunya kekufuran dan syirik.

http://mstar.com.my/berita/cerita.asp?file=/2010/1/4/mstar_berita/20100104184356&sec=mstar_berita


And According to Malaysiakini

Kalimah Allah: Pejabat Nik Aziz sangkal laporan TV3

Sebenarnya, kata Mohd Saiba, mursyidul am PAS itu tidak setuju dengan keputusan Mahkamah Tinggi membenarkan gereja Roman Katolik Kuala Lumpur, selaku penerbit, menggunakan kalimah tersebut dalam akhbar Herald-The Catholic Weekly.

http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/121075



We have 3 Contradictory statements here.

In case you are wondering the Press conference about the stand on this issue you can read here

http://www.harakahdaily.net/v2/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=24001:jangan-kelirukan-atau-politikkan-kalimah-allah-pas&catid=41:utama-muka-depan&Itemid=125


So Who is spinning here? TMI? MStar? or Malaysiakini?

or is it actually Parti Islam Semalaysia?

You tell me.

13 comments:

somehow... they will say UMNO is spinning all the facts. they will find a way, those creative SOB's.

they might even involve Rosmah also. haha.

 

PAS will use this opportunity for political milage as usual.
PAS don't think that we Malaysians are that stupid as to not see your all uour actions.
In PRU13 you will be judged!

 

haha,

Maybe dlm PAS ade Kaum Muda vs Kaum Tua juga.

Gua lagi pelik tgk prestasi UMNO yg merundum.Kes Perak secepat kilat Mahkamah buat keputusan U turn.Kes kalimah Allah boleh pulak lengah2 kan.

Is UMNO losing "power" to pressure the court?Or maybe kalimah Allah case not important enough..

humm..

 

Waah hebat,
kalah PAS engkau ni,

Dari kenyataan PAS yang bercanggah menegnai nama Allah terus ke Perak.

Apa kena mengena?

 

gua cite psl court lah.Bercanggah tu normal.Diff school of thought.Kalau dak wat pe wat majlis fatwa n syura.

But since UMNO yg tgh pegang power skang, knapa tak halang awal2 lagi??

saje2 tak paham eh..

Pulau hilang..
enjin jet hilang..
Nama allah pon nak hilang..

Penin lak tgk.Maybe Najib tak capable mana kot jd PM ni

 

Alang2 cerita pasal court, 6 jan 2010 ni (esok) sepatutnya ada bicara. Baca kat blog cam tak nak gi pulak, sebab dapat surat lambat ke pejadah ntah.

Rrrrrrrreformasi! Pooooodddah...

 

Xenan, to be fair to UMNO, they have stated their stand on this matter.

And to be fair to the AG/KDN, one shld look at the facts before making accusations. In Zambry vs Nizar case, the appeal was done the next WORKING day (after the initial ruling was made). In KDN vs Herald case, the judgement was made on Thursday Dec 31, 2009. They could only filed for an appeal on Monday, which is the next working day (due to the long holidays). Crystal clear.

To be fair, whatever the government did/does in any matters, the opposition -simply by being an opposition- will try to manipulate it, and blindly took an OPPOSITE stands/policies for the sake of being a "pembangkang" - eventho some of the Govmnt's decision is correct/right. This is a policy that needs to be changed, as it will bite them in the ass in future. If PR acts in the same manner as the BN, then why should they be given a chance as well? So far, its not a convincing show by the PR. They need to do better, and then they can speak of "aspiring to emulate democratic ideals of Westminster or Capitol Hill". They should fight for the right thing, and not simply opposing because its the right thing to do. There's a difference in that.

So in this case, any intervention by the Government can easily be manipulated/distorted as an act of suppressing judicial reform/credibility, a blatant disregard of the 1Malaysian slogan, oppression of basic human rights and so forth. No?

 

Kes mahkamah yang dibawa oleh Herald hari ini adalah kerana Kementerian Dalam Negeri telah menghalang Herald dari menggunakan Kalimah Allah dalam penulisan Bahasa Melayu.

Maka Herald telah membawa kes ini merujuk ke mahkamah maka terjadilah perkata ini.

ini adalah untuk menjawab persoalan anda

But since UMNO yg tgh pegang power skang, knapa tak halang awal2 lagi??


Dan memang kebiasaan bagi penyokong PR yang aneh sedikit, bila tersilap atau salah dalam sesuatu isu maka dibangkitkan isu yang lain tidak ada kena mengena untuk menutup pekung.

Kalau dulu apa-apa yang PR silap buat akan dibalas dengan menjerit Altantuya, hari ini nampaknya dah ada slogan baru.

Alahai...

 

The answer to your question:
Its the three media that are reporting their own versions.

The original version must be provided by the person(s) who commented.

Looks like you are quoting mews reports and trying to discredit the persons.

Basic thing also you do not know ah? just ask them direct through the IT facilities that you have in hand.

I am sure they will oblige - provided you do NOT take a stand FIRST and then only ask.

Faham?

PARAMESWARA

 

Of course,
one can always blame the media or spinning which is true and the original comments is hard to obtained as it is usually done in a press conference hence the media.

Which is why if you read the links

The Malaysian Insider

M Star

Malaysiakini

TMI and Malaysiakini is of PR while MStar affiliate of TheStar is Pro BN.
and ALL 3 contradict one another.

Which is why spinning is even more baffling as even the Pro PR media contradicts one another.

and I did give one link to the original comments, if you notice the Harakah Link.

 

bangun lah wei....wak semua jangan tidur...bangun..pergi buat research sikit..."Allah" has been used in Sabah and Sarawak for ages lar..but not Ban also...simple bcoz UMNO not strong there, why is it Ban here NOW? and why NAJIS allows protest to go on???? when opposition organise protest, FRU and POLICE lar..all there to stop them..but why NOT this protest???? all UMNO fanatics...never use brain also...cis...

 

PSH... Malaysians always have a pre-conditioned mind to see spin, corruption, racism in any group of people (government parties to religion class), even when it is not there.

Though Christians may have the constitutional right to use 'Allah', but they seem to forget that while many malaysian muslims see the case as sensitive, it should NOT be done, especially when other more appropriate terms are available.

The case is not whether you have the right or not, it is about religious sensitivity.

Does the benefits of using 'Allah' in christianity outweighs the risk of getting your churches burnt by disgruntled muslims ????

All too childish.